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Re:Rampant art 'theft' by Korean Drama site

Journal Entry: Sat Dec 22, 2012, 9:55 AM
  • Mood: Neutral
  • Playing: Kid Icarus: Uprising


Hey guys, I've been seeing a lot of outrage over a particular website* which appears to be a type of blog about Korean drama shows, but if you type your name in the search bar, your art from here on dA is displayed. A lot of people are angry that their art is being reposted, and I'll address that in a moment, but more importantly, I must warn that you SHOULD NOT ACTUALLY VISIT THE WEBSITE, because it is supposedly loaded with viruses and malware. Plus, typing your user name in the search bar also seems to be the trigger that CAUSES your art to be reposted. More info on that in this journal here: darlingmionette.deviantart.com…
*I won't type the URL, because it is supposedly rife with viruses, and I don't want any of my watchers' computers harmed.

Now to address those who have had their art reposted -

As I have told you guys many times, I found out from speaking with a lawyer on this subject that if you post artwork for free viewing on the internet, through galleries like deviantArt or Furaffinity, it is NOT illegal for another site or user to repost it on sites like Tumblr, or image collection sites. It ONLY becomes illegal in these instances:
1. You required a payment for people to view or use the artwork, and are losing money because it has been reposted for free.
2. The art has been altered in ANY way.
3. If the user is claiming to have drawn it, because this would be a case of identity theft.
4. If the user is posting the art on a website like deviantArt, where it is implied simply by their uploading it that they drew it. Even with a disclaimer like, "I didn't draw this!", it's still illegal, since dA's user policy states that all artwork uploaded must be your own.

It is not required even for people to ask your permission to repost your artwork, and they certainly don't even need to credit you. That would just be respectful courtesy, and some people don't have any concept of such a thing.

However, most LEGIT image collection sites WILL remove an image of yours if you ask - they tend to be very respectful to the artists, and I appreciate that. So before you jump down a site's throat for reposting your artwork, start by being rational, contacting the owner, and asking for it to be taken down. LEGALLY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT DOWN! However, out of pure RESPECT, most of them will, which I think is completely awesome of them.
(For the record, the website we spoke about earlier is NOT a legit site, and is not only infecting computers, but also potentially making MONEY off searches for your art, which may or may not be illegal. So while some image collection websites are cool, some are just nasty.)

Now, the advice I will always until the end of time give all you artists out there. Since your artwork is almost guaranteed to be reposted at some point, without your permission, and perhaps even without your knowledge, you have two options:
1. Never post your artwork for free viewing on the internet again! ...But since that option sucks,
2. WATERMARK EVERYTHING YOU UPLOAD. EVERY. LAST. THING.

ALWAYS watermark your artwork, and include the URL to the gallery of your choice (mine are always watermarked with "nyaasu.deviantart.com") That way, WHEN (not if) your artwork gets reposted, viewers will ALWAYS know where to find you.

And if you're worried about the watermark being removed - if they do that, YOU HAVE A LEGAL CASE AND CAN SIC A LAWYER ON THEIR ASS. Satisfying, no?

So, the moral of the story is, as always, if you are uncomfortable with your art being reposted and you not recieving proper credit for it, WATERMARK IT. WATERMARK ALL THE THINGS.

Having your art reposted is an annoyance that won't be going away any time soon. So instead of being helpless about it, take action, and DEMAND proper credit, with a watermark!

Thanks for reading, guys, and good luck out there, all my fellow artists!

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:iconjinggo78:
Jinggo78 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
some things that I've commissioned have been reposted by I just add my own tags so they know it's mine (on booru sites). It's like free advertising. As long as proper credit is given and no altering I'm fine.
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's how I see it, too. ESPECIALLY if there's a link back to yours.

It's different when someone else claims to have drawn it, which does still happen from time to time, but the "Hey look at this art!" stuff doesn't bother me at all. x3
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Jinggo78 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012
I'm a writer so it's a bit different for me. Sometimes I commission artwork of my characters and I've had people asking me if they can use them. I've had to turn them down because unless they know my characters as well as I do I can't permit them to be in another story. So far no one has tried to draw my characters without permission. Most of the reason I have a problem with it though is because I haven't put out enough material for people to really know who my characters are yet.
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I understand. ...Well, kind of. I don't have any original stories/characters myself, but I can see how since they are yours, you would be nervous about letting people draw them who may not know enough about their personalities, etc.

I had SOMETHING awkward like that happen once, though. You know my shiba Sora? --> [link] ?
That's not exactly MY character, since it's, you know, Sora, from Kingdom Hearts. But over time, he's sort of begun to stand for me in my art, and so a lot of people who don't know Sora associate this character directly with me. Well, anyway, I once had someone asking me if they could draw THEIR character...uhhh, doing X-rated things with my shiba Sora. @_@ And that felt...well, awkward. Although I don't own Sora, or the concept of shiba inus, that character is somehow close to me, and to have him(/her*) drawn in porn, well...it's a bit odd. x3
*The person who wanted to draw it thought that it was a girl - and when he drew the art (he totally went through with it btw), he drew it as a female.) xD
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:iconjinggo78:
Jinggo78 Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012
Wow that does sound awkward! LOL. Someone asked to draw me as my fursona and they never did but I was wondering what they were going to draw since I've never actually posted a full body pic or ref sheet of my fursona. That person would be the first if they did. my current fursona is rather new to me since I changed it last year. Well 2011 last year. Currently 5:16 PM Dec 31st here. I gave them permission though.
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I see! x3 Is your fursona what is depicted in your icon?
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addoggxx Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
not cool at all!!!!!!!!!:objection: v2stop that thieves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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:iconjinggo78:
Jinggo78 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
Yes. there's a bigger version on my FA page.
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What's your FA again? x3
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Rutana Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Student Writer
As far as I'm aware (meaning reading it in another journal), it's nothing else but a (terrible) search engine. Like Google.
Just... Bad.... (instead of pictures from or for me, I got pictures of a "Rotana" product - whatever it is... XD which actually underlines this thesis)
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
LOL Yeah, that's what it looks like, although after you find it you can also...comment on it? Through their website? xD
I was trying to comment on my own artwork like the little brat that I am, but I'd need a facebook, which I don't have. xD
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:iconrutana:
Rutana Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Student Writer
I have no idea, really XD
I just passed along what I read XD
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Jinggo78 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
Google is a bad search engine? So I guess you've found a better alternative? what do you use? I would love to find an alternative to Google. It censors results based on its company policy and if certain people tell them to.
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Rutana Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Student Writer
No, you got me wrong ^^
I meant that this search engine on this korean page is bad.
Google is the best you can get, as far as I know ^^
I just struggled a bit with the word "search machine" since it's a direct translation from german, and I didn't knew if it's "the same" in english... (and was too lazy to look it up ;p) So I put Google afterwards to make myself clear... XD
...that failed unfortunally though XD
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Jinggo78 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Oh I see. Ok! No harm done. For a while there I thought you had found something I didn't know about. So far I haven't found a search engine better than Google. even if there are things about it that I don't like.
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MileniaKitsuvee Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I know what site you mean. I saw some of my art there :cry: Honestly what bothers me is the type of site it got reposted to! It's so weird and glitchy O___o it freaks me out kinda to know my art is floating in their search. But usually I don't mind if someone reblogs my art like on Tumblr or FB as a "hey look at this art" sort of way. It's when they start getting comments like "oh cool your have the most epic gallery" and their response is "thanks!" like if they made it when they clearly didn't that I hate! >.>
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh same here. xD I see that all the time, and I ALWAYS comment on those comments, saying, "Oh they didn't draw this. Here's the original (Link)." xD
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MileniaKitsuvee Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I tried that in the past but they got angsty and then they got in trouble with one of the original artists. :/ They took all the art down but months later, they are at it again. u.u It sucks cuz then one of their "friends" said she was gonna print some and sell them on shirts at an anime con.
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow. Yeah, that's disgusting. -_-
I hope they never actually did that!
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:iconmileniakitsuvee:
MileniaKitsuvee Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
We'll see if it happens this time when I go to the anime con here (it's in May). I'm always on the lookout for art thieves. XD Thank goodness it has rarely happened.
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AxelFlynn Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012
...This pisses me off. I got brave and looked. MY ART IS FREAKIN' EVERYWHERE.
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
LOL NOOO
The thing is, you might have MADE your art appear there BY searching for it - the site seems to be running a script that does that. xD

Before you search for your art, it may not be there, but as SOON as you type your name in the search, it nabs it from the internet...or so it seems!
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:iconaxelflynn:
AxelFlynn Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012
Ah...well then. That bites.
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Kerui8D Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
:iconwthplz: watermarkwatermarkwatermark... NOW I GET IT.
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:lmao:
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:iconlightningsilver-mana:
LightningSilver-Mana Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
:iconclapplz:
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:giggle:

:bow:
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sailorvulpix Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
How do I watermark something anyway? I've never done that before...
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:iconjinggo78:
Jinggo78 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
make a personal logo image with your name under it then using Photoshop or any similar alternative put the image somewhere on your art on a separate layer and then reduce the "opacity" of just that layer so can see through it but don't make it too light to see. this way people can still enjoy your art but the watermark is like a branding that tells people who it belongs to. most people put it in a corner or somewhere that isn't distracting but still visible. I think there are some good tutorials on this site that explain it better.
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:iconsailorvulpix:
sailorvulpix Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I only have MSPaint to draw with, so I can't really do the "layering" part.
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:iconjinggo78:
Jinggo78 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
you should try to find one that does layers. Photoshop isn't the only one so you can probably find one that's free or not expensive. good luck!
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I just found this account: [link]
Which might have some advice for you.
The thing is, it's different depending on what program you use, etc.

Pretty much, a layer of text with your user name/URL, set at a low opacity will work, but if you don't know what any of that means, I'm sure they can help you on that account. x3
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:iconsailorvulpix:
sailorvulpix Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I really only use MS Paint, so I have no idea what to do.
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, I see. Well, dA has a built-in watermark you can add, too! But it's a little overbearing and hard to make out, in my opinion. But if it's the only thing you can do, well, it's better than nothing! I don't know much about that, but if you want to use it, I'll see if I can figure it out, although that account I linked to will probably be able to explain it better than I can!
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sailorvulpix Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Recently I drew something, and I did put the best I could come up with for a watermark, which is really just the URL address to my page... does that count?

(It hasn't been fully submitted, it's just in my sta.sh)
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That totally counts. The way I see it, that's the best kind of watermark, because if someone sees it on another site, they know where to go to find/contact you!
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sailorvulpix Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Alrighty then.

I really want to post my lastest, but.. I feel too shy to do it, for some reason. It's in my sta.sh if you want a look-see.
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmm...well, I would, but I'm not sure how to check your sta.sh!
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wiimaster97 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I heard one instance about a Korean drama. I hear they're really weird anyway.

The legality of posting one's artwork always confounds me, even if I rationally think it makes sense.
I tend to exempt myself from thinking someone would repost my artwork, for obvious reason, and even if they do... I don't know. I'm not so worried since I know I made it. It'd probably just annoy me if people thought I was the thief, and, I'm not worried that'll happen, since, again I did make it.

Meh, but watermarks are always nice. All I do is a little signature thing, and that'd be super easy to remove. Of course, adding a watermark on a traditional drawing tends to be more of an effort than a digital drawing, it seems.
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually ~rhaego says that Korean dramas are pretty cool, although I have never seen one myself. x3

I think there are tutorials on adding watermarks to scanned digital art, but you probably need a more advanced imaging program than MS Paint to do it. FireAlpaca might work well though, and it's free!
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wiimaster97 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Really? I only saw a video of a guy making fun of them. It was pretty hilarious though.
If you're willing to see it, it's, this- [link]

Heh, I think something just a bit more advanced than MS Paint should be good enough, and I have something like that.
But FireAlpaca? That's real? I've got to see that. xD

Heh, it looks pretty cool, actually. I might have to consider downloading it anyway. :0
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SeptilSix Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I had some of my pictures taken by that site as well. I wasn't really mad though, to tell you the truth. I actually laughed, since that was probably the last place I'd ever expect my artwork to end up. I always thought it would be cool to get my work more "out there", but I never expected it to turn up on a Korean drama site xD
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It is REALLY confusing. xD When I first clicked the link I was like...wait, did this person post the wrong link...? xD

I'm not mad either, I really don't care when my art is reposted, BECAUSE it has my URL on it - so I see it as free advertising. But, I thought I should pass on the advice to those out there who are less OK with it. xD
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Arcticwaters Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012
I SECOND THE WATERMARK THING. No matter what it is, a masterpiece or a doodle, or your skill level, JUST SIGN IT IN SOMEWAY. (Especially the URL, like you said, so they know where to go.) I think it's your right as an artist to mark your work as yours especially since a) it WILL get reposted SOMEWHERE eventually [even if it's not claimed as theirs] and b) if they remove it, it's illegal.

Most of the time, I put mine in an out of the way place, but it would still be obvious if it was removed/cropped out.
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I love that little clause. Remove my watermark? IT'S ON, BITCH. xD

...Although most of the time, the offenders are little kids who aren't worth my time. x3
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josie1130 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Does a signature count as a watermark? (i basically put my siggy on all my art now)
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It does, that's like, the original watermark. x3 But if you add your gallery's URL, that guarantees that if anyone wants to contact you about the art, they'll know where to go!
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josie1130 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
ok. Thanks!
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:iconmidnight-yamikidate:
Midnight-Yamikidate Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
well...I already visited the site but...it seems I avoided the viruses luckily.
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:iconnyaasu:
Nyaasu Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, same here. x3 Although I visited it on a phone, so maybe that's why xD
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