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Re: Free art requests

Journal Entry: Sat Nov 10, 2012, 1:14 PM
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(If you have ever asked someone for free art, or if you yourself have been asked for free art, this journal is for you.)

One frequent question I get, is, "can you draw something for me for free?"
My usual answer is, "I wish that I could, but I have no job/low-paying job, so all my effort MUST go towards making art for money, not free. I'm sorry."

There is no part of this statement that is not true. I DO wish that I made enough money to never have to do on-the-side-art for money again. To be able to just draw whatever I want and to not have to consider it a waste of time, and therefore a loss of money. It's not a lie. And as I have a guilt complex, even the "I'm sorry" is sincere.

But I will probably NEVER make enough money to not have to consider working on the ideas of random people I don't even know to be a waste of my time if they won't pay me for it.
That sounds harsh, but please, try to understand.
Art takes me a long time. A longer time than most people. But in ALL cases, art takes time for ANY artist. Art is frustrating. Art is DIFFICULT.
Unless someone is making artwork of something they ABSOLUTELY LOVE, art is a task, like any other trade.
Art is something that people who can't MAKE art are willing to pay for.
So artists directly trade their time and effort spent on things they may not entirely enjoy doing for money they need to survive.

So do me, and any other artists you request free art from, a favor.
Don't consider it to be just requesting a free piece of artwork.
Consider it to be requesting MONEY from that artist.

In a roundabout way, that's what you're asking for.
The hours an artist spends on your request are hours that could have been spent on a commission.

Instead, please...PLEASE, if you'd like to see your ideas drawn out, brought to life, but can't possibly pay to have it done, seek out an artist who is OPENLY ACCEPTING requests.
I see SEVERAL in my excursions on this very website. Artists who feel they need practice, but don't have any good ideas themselves. Artists who'd like to do commissions, but have no examples to show of what finished art would look like. Artists who are simply BORED and don't need money!

They are out there! Go ask for requests where it is appropriate, not to any artist whose page you like.
AND ESPECIALLY, STOP ASKING FOR THEM FROM ME.

And I know damn well that despite this journal, despite my OBNOXIOUS "I DON'T DO REQUESTS" DISCLAIMER, I'll still get requests for free art filling my inbox.
AS ALWAYS.
But I thought I'd at least make my thoughts on it public.


And don't get me started on people who pretend to be my friends to get free art. The first time it happened, I was sickened. How can you be so obvious about it? But now it happens so frequently that it's just...a sad reality.

True friends don't ask for gift art after talking to me for only an hour and pretending to care about me.




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Lizzichu Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Well said Nyaasu!! I would like to share this in my journal. Its also annoying when someone adds me and keeps commenting for awhile and say how awesome and talented and then they ask for me to draw something for them as they think we are best buddys. Also they ask for trades or that they have no money or points. I try my best with some requests when I do ask for some and I'm still waiting for commissions but I'll wait till I get better I guess. I'm not that well known and I do have some people who like my work but can't buy commissions. I do wish that I can draw all day for people or get an awesome job so I can draw for free.
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, unfortunately I notice that FREE art is more quickly gobbled up than art for money, although I wish they'd realize how CHEAP our prices really are.

I hope one day they realize the value of a dollar, seriously!
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Lizzichu Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yup I agree. Some prices that people have aren't very high and are reasonable. I sometimes think that people that buy coffee or something like eating out nearly everyday adds up, but I'm sure they don't really give it much thought because its something they want or need. Now a commission is pretty cheap than they think it is but sometimes people aren't aware of the amount the already spend due to routine and things.

Artwork takes our time to create and draw. It's surely fun for us to have our creative thoughts expressed through canvas, paper, computer, etc... If only it brought the bread and money at the same time. If I could I would draw all day doing the thing I enjoy to do but sadly I don't get paid "yet" depending if I could design or get paid to draw. :)

My prices aren't high I hope... But I'm also not that well known. I can always try my best to work around a persons budget and maybe discount but I can only reduce so much. The word "free" is everyone's budget and people try to vulture for free art instead of buying.

Sorry I was in my zone mode and I hope what I said makes sense lol
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Konazumi Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well said, Nyassu~
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
xD Thanks, I hope people can understand how it feels to get so many requests! x3
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Drake-Ryu Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
For me I try to find artist who openly say accepting art requests, and even if they don't want anything for it, I usually give them something back, whether it be points or a drawing. I sometimes do art trades, which is somewhat more fair for others as they don't want to pay with money or points. I do enjoy seeing other's draw my OC or something.
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very good, there's nothing wrong with WANTING a request, nothing at all! But you have to find someone who is TAKING requests. x3 I see a lot of people who want to take requests, although I can't name any off the top of my head. xD

When someone notes me asking for a free request, it makes me feel guilty, as well as a little annoyed that someone wants my art, but doesn't want to pay me for it. x3 And, getting so many requests stresses me out - I never forget about it, I have too much guilt!

So I want people to think of how an artist will feel, before they note them with a request. x3
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Dragoniade Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
You should NEVER ask for free art. It's insulting to the artist and other. Why would YOU get free stuff and not the other? Why are you more deserving than the other?

If an artist does offer request, then consider this as a gift, NOT as a due. Don't come barging with 20 changes request or complain the art is not as you had hoped. It was a gift. Sometime you get what you want, sometime you get some old socks.

If you want something specific, then commission it. Don't expect to get the same level of satisfaction with free stuff than paid stuff. That's the rule for everything, art included.
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"...or complain the art is not as you had hoped."
...Yeah, I drew something for someone as a free gift, and they disliked it and "politely" asked me to redraw it entirely, because my style is not what they like.

I thought that was so rude...I can't even describe it. -_-
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wiimaster97 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh boy, something to talk about. :3

Well, I'll say one thing, it must fire you up to think about requests. xD I'm not against that, but I'm not in your shoes, I have no idea what it's like to only do commissions.

I mean, I get that you need to do commissions, you don't have much money, (I guess I'm glad I know you enough to know that now .3.) and again, I'm alright with that, but I can't really relate so much.
Not that you're asking for me to relate, but hey, different perspectives are good, I suppose. |'D

I mean, I'm still in high school. I'm not desperate for money. I'm actually making more money than I ever have been, actually.
Not to mention, I barely get requests anyway, so if I even consider doing commissions anytime soon my page is going to be like a ghost town. ;w;
I do have one request I still have to do... I was asked months ago. This may be why no one asks me for anything. >w<;

Eh, well... I guess it's a long road for me to work on my art, get more requests, then become angry when no one asks for commissions instead. .3. Not to make fun of any artist, but it worries me to see people feeling more indignant than I feel they should about this.

Like I said, I don't know how it feels, but still, I don't think yelling at anyone to get your point across would be necessary. I, hope it wouldn't be. I3I;
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"...then become angry when no one asks for commissions instead."
...Yyyeeeaaahhh, I can almost guarantee that this will happen.
People LINE UP for free art...but as soon as you put a price on it, all you hear is crickets. xD

And I don't think I was yelling...was I? xD I was being reasonable.
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wiimaster97 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Heh, I would think so.
I myself am not someone to ask for requests. I did it once, but I don't really care to do it any more. At best I'll want an art trade, if not a commission. I once tried to send a friend on here money when she was offering commissions, and I didn't even ask for a commission. :3
I never was able to send the money because my mom was concerned with my action, but she seemed to appreciate my intention. |'D

I don't know. I don't want to misinterpret what you were doing, but you came off especially strong to me. Kind of telling people what to do. I see your motive, yes, but, I think you know I don't like seeing people just outright telling others what to do, especially if it's because they're mad. >w<;
It's okay though, I know you're a nice person. I can tell you were trying to be reasonable, if you didn't actually manage. xD
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bogm0nst3r Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
That's pretty good points in there. ANywho, I sucky at art and don't think my art is worth money.
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I used to think that, too. x3 You'll get more confident as time goes on!
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zillabean Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
*standing ovation*

Absolutely true, well-written, firm, but polite. You really broke it down in a logical way that I think anyone can understand, and while I know full well that the FREE ART REQUESTS will keep pouring in regardless, at the very least you made an attempt to explain yourself in a really succinct way. Bravo.
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why thank you! xD
I feel like people on here are a bit too...uhh, the opposite of timid. Me, I'd never ask ANYONE for something for free. When someone has something I want, I ALWAYS OFFER MONEY. And on the other side, when I have something someone else wants, and I know I can part with it easily, I offer it for free. And things are also sometimes offered to ME for free.

But I don't know how so many people are so...I don't want to say greedy, but so...FORWARD, as to come up to me and say, "Hey can I have that for free?" WHO DOES THAT? Sure, if someone OFFERS something (in this case, advertises that they will do free requests) that's totally cool. But if that's not put out there, how can someone be so...BRAZEN, to go up to someone and ask for a hand-out?

I guess I can think of two reasons. One, it's the internet. They can't see my face, and I can't see theirs. So if I say no, they just go on with their lives. But me with my guilt complex, I NEVER FORGET THAT I HAD TO TELL SOMEONE NO. :lmao:

And the other reason being that art is often either given away too easily or sold too cheaply, so it is seen as valueless to a lot of non-artists. That's sad, but I have a feeling it's true.

And also
the bf gave me Professor Layton (3D) for free. For no reason. I AM SO TOUCHED. :cry:
Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have it for like...months. I'm so broke. D;
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zillabean Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Yes to everything! I was raised before the internet was an integrated part of everyday society, and so the idea of having SO MUCH available at the click of a finger was not something I grew up with. So I guess the notion of "free" wasn't so common for me. I always offer something if I want something -- whether it's money or art or whatever the opposing party might be interested in. But I will never ask for something for free unless the person is OFFERING it.

CONGRATS ON LAYTON SFDKSJDF:LKDJ:LAKFJ I'm taking my sweet ass time with it, so it will be a long time before I finish it. I blew through the other Laytons so quick and then was sad I ran out of game, so I'm taking my time.
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh god I am so glad it's not just me. D; *Hugs you forever*

I haven't even started yet, SO! You're already ahead of me. xD
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Riku-of-Darkness Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Do I want art for free? SURE! If I could get all of the pictures I have in my head drawn without cost, I'd be stupid pleased. However, I know the world does not work like that and I would never expect an artist to just draw what I want for nothing.

I cannot draw, ergo I commission, and given how many hours, days, hell weeks that go into my writing projects, I can respect how much time and effort goes into the pictures I've ordered. I really don't understand where the mentality that artwork is completed in an hour or so, and so it's not "unreasonable" to ask for free art.

To be honest though, this is just as bad as people who complain at an artist when the artist does not draw as much of a certain fandom/pairing/whatever as the person wishes to see. "I only watched you for this artwork, so draw more of it" is a paraphrased version of a comment I once saw; such impudence. You are NOT paying this artist so you have no right to demand what art they should be drawing. >(
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"...this is just as bad as people who complain at an artist when the artist does not draw as much of a certain fandom/pairing/whatever as the person wishes to see."
Haha, I didn't think of that, you're right. OR, if they complain that your interests have switched and they wish you'd draw more "____" again.

When I am doing art for the sheer joy of doing it, I'm making myself happy. Everyone is allowed to make themselves happy. We can't please everyone around us all day. If you'd like to see more "___", OFFER ME SOMETHING FOR IT, or, just suggest it, don't demand it, and don't threaten to unwatch me if I don't. :lmao:

Just unwatch me silently and move on, if you have to.

And then there's the opposite. "I hate how your gallery used to be all "___", and now it's all "___". It's sad. Please stop drawing "___" or I will be forced to unwatch you."

How about you gtfo, sir. xD I can draw whatever the f*ck I want, unless you're paying me. Then I'm drawing whatever the f*ck you want, and we're both happy. xD
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Riku-of-Darkness Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
*nods* It's what I always say to artists when they're feeling hurt by people threatening to unwatch just because their art desires aren't being satisfied. They are not paying you, therefore, if they don't like what you're drawing, they can shut up and leave. Cherish the watchers who appreciate you for you, and the art you submit, not the ones who bully you.

I love that: "I'll be FORCED to unwatch you." Er, funny, I don't recall anyone putting a gun to your head, demanding you only look at certain art or else.

Admittedly, there are lots of things that artists I watch submit and I don't like, but I don't threaten them about it. If I don't like the art because of personal reasons, I just don't comment. If I can think of anything constructive to say, then I do, but I never tell them what they should and should not draw. I commission when the option is available, and even then, I try to leave most of the creation to the artist.
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Admittedly, there are lots of things that artists I watch submit and I don't like..."
I am actually having a problem with something like this. There's an artist on here who I think is very talented, but he draws absolutely disgusting porn images of My Little Pony.

I unwatched him once, but then felt bad, thinking, why can't I just ignore those pieces? Re-watched him, and now I'm still getting sick to my stomach every time he posts an artwork. He's getting more into the porn than clean art, and I'm thinking I should unwatch him again, but I feel so...I don't know, so intolerant or something.

I should probably just unwatch him and forget about it. -_-
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Riku-of-Darkness Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Okay, well, there's a balance issue to be had in this kind of situation. If the artist drew more things I REALLY didn't like than things I did, I wouldn't keep my watch active. I don't see the point in feeling nauseated and/or bothered every time I open my inbox, you know?

When I replied earlier, I was more referring to content I'm not fond of, but that I'm capable of ignoring (ex. work related to Xion in some manner). However, if this is the main source of the artist's submissions and I've resorted to deleting everything without looking through stacks, then I would most likely unwatch them. I unwatched :icondeviantartsecret: for this very reason. The secrets, while perhaps very personal to the submitter, often sounded exactly the same, and the constant spelling/grammar errors (alongside many ignorant responders regarding the issue) bothered me enough to stop watching the group.
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmmm...I guess I should just unwatch him, but I'll always feel a bit bad about it... x3

Although...I mean, I'll give him one more shot. If the next thing posted is tame, I'll stay. If not...well...sorry... x3
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Riku-of-Darkness Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
*nods* I can understand that. You don't want to be the kind of person we were just talking about; just remember that you're not telling this artist what to draw, but you can't feel bad about not wanting to see art in your inbox that makes you uncomfortable.

*hug*
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KairaHakura Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Er.. Just a note there... I will draw what someone wants for nothing.. I'm only 17, and I know that money is important, but I love to draw, especially if it is anime. The paintings though.. Well, you can leave me out of that one!
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Riku-of-Darkness Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I don't mean that asking someone who has said they will take free requests is wrong. It's when people ask without indication that the artist takes free requests, or worse, ask despite how clear the artist been about not taking requests or drawing free art.

In your case, it's an exception, as I imagine you indicate that you will take requests. =]
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KairaHakura Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah, but...um...I just don't know if I'd be as good as the rest of you though...
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Riku-of-Darkness Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That isn't really the point though, is it? If you're offering to draw their demand for free, then they have no business complaining or comparing.

Besides, I'm sure your artwork is good; all you need is practice. Practice and devotion to improvement is generally what makes a great artist. =]
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KairaHakura Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Thanks for the vote of confidence, ^^
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Riku-of-Darkness Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You're welcome. ^-^
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domon9884 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I prefer to offer trades myself. Works out for myself and the other artist. *returns to detailing Palutena's lips*
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
YES.
Offering a trade is WAY LESS FORWARD in my books than just ASKING FOR FREE ART. xD At least the second party is OFFERING something in return.

omfg Palutenaaaaaaaaaa xD
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domon9884 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Working on Tifa's too. :3
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Drake-Ryu Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
As do I
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BelleSura Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm just waiting for commissions...
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
LOL The wait is almost over. I am ALMOST THERE. I'm actually chomping at the bit to open them again, I just gotta get approval on one thing I'm working on at the moment and we are good to go. x3
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BelleSura Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yay!!!!!
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LossingFeathers Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
So... That means we can do an art trade, right? *derpy face* Joking, really (unless you wanted to and I get my painting quota down for the week, because I am where you are there on the time and difficulty issue. Drawing does not come naturally to me. Even my professor told me that... We do it because we love to, no other reason. As you know, there are easier ways to get money then drawing x.x...)
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh trades I don't mind offers for at all. At least the interested party is offering SOMETHING in return, not just asking for a handout! xD

"Drawing does not come naturally to me. Even my professor told me that..."
I think I am the same way. I pressed myself to keep learning and to get better, but I don't have a natural understanding of it. People always assume I must, that I got it from nature or genetics, but no, I got where I am by nothing but hard work and just wishing I could draw. xD

That's why I believe 100% that ANYONE CAN DRAW, they just have to desire it enough!

And a trade between you and I would be epic. In fact, I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING I'D WANT.
I have some commissions to slog through, but I'd totally be up for a trade, now that I know what I'd want. :heart:
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LossingFeathers Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
I was always told I was good at drawing, even when I was bad. When I asked "how come you praised that crap back in high school" she told me that in comparison to others, what I did was really good. So I really thought I was a natural till I came to college and saw what a "natural" really does. It was uncanny. So I tired harder and it showed.

After a year of me trying twice as hard at my "natural" peers I was finally pointed out by my professors. He pointed out that drawing was hard for me and that I didn't see like others do (I don't see the world in line, like how we draw. I see the world with no boundaries, more like a painting. This is reason one it's hard to draw. I don't always know where to put the line! This freaks out a friend of mine who sees the world in all lines. "Everything needs boundaries!" she exclaims. hehe). The praise was nice, but I have never been one to take that for much. After all, if what I did was better then 90% of all humans I still have that 10% that are ten times better then me. But I let the praise fuel me to work harder.

By the time I left school two short years ago I had not only the reputation of a hard worker, earning the right to stand with the peers that drew without pain, but the work ethic to make it work. Now, if I only had the clientele...

In the end I am glad I have to work so hard to make what I do. I appreciate it more then some of my "natural" peers. I am getting faster with drawing and a little more confident and faster with painting. I guess that's why people like us sell more in prints then we do in commissions. But with time I think you and I can get there. That doesn't change the fact that we need to get payed to do what we do ^.^;;

So, that trade. I have a painting and a half on que, but what where you thinking about getting drawn up? Anything you would like to see as a kitten? I CAN draw other animals and people, and just as well if given the time. I just have five kittens running around my room making them easier to draw inspiration from ^.^;;
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"He pointed out that drawing was hard for me and that I didn't see like others do..."
I suspect that I have a problem like this, too, only the opposite of how you are - I can see it in lines, but not in values/shades/colors! xD TOGETHER WE WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE!

Understandable, I am the same way with dogs. x3
And I was thinking something with Pit and Palutena as kitties...although, don't start it yet, because I'm like 4 works behind myself. :lmao:
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LossingFeathers Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012
>O! In the professional world it's very common for someone to be a lineart specialist and another to be a colorist. but in our line of work to be competitive one needs to do both x.x and that's difficult.


you tell me when you are ready and we'll get started. I would love to see my original character as a dog you think would be best. ^.^!
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Illinath Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
LOL ART PLS
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
NO. :trollface:
Although I do enjoy drawing your dog xD
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Illinath Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
:lmao:
If I could I'd draw him more.
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iFoxSpirit Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
OMG this could not BE any more true!! :no: You've totally said it, Nyaasu! :thumbsup:
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Nyaasu Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks! I just wanted to get it off my chest. x3
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iFoxSpirit Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:D hehe totally understandable! ;)
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Manah-Angel-Eyes Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow that was well said
I hate types that pretend to be your friend and then ask for free drawings, I also hate cheapskates who want to pay 5-10 points because more than that is "omg expenseef" ._.

Personally I don't do commissions, I somehow feel guilty charging people even when there's a good reason for it, but I still do requests
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